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05-15-2008, 05:25 PM
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vjb journal, already done lots of it, check it out
ok, so ive had the vjb for about a year. before doing the vjb i did a crap plyo program online w/o strength training. only saw marginal gains.
i started the vjb right before going to china over the summer. beginning stats: 5'8, 125 pounds,
22inch standing, 24 inch running
i did the novice plyos and the novice weight training together. i saw some good gains to a 24 inch standing and a 26 inch running.
then i had to go to china over the summer so only had two plyo workouts in my hotel room and two weight workout in the hotel gym ( i was mostly outside doing stuff all day, had no time) when i got back i had gone back down to a 22 incc standing
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05-15-2008, 05:31 PM
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Re: vjb journal, already done lots of it, check it out
after getting back i trained on and off (w/ intermediate plyos and still novice weights) for about 3 months due to lots of time on the court. by about christmas time i was back up to a 24 inch standing and 26 inch running. i took a few months off the just play basketball. just last month, i have finnaly hit a major gain while working on really increasing my strength. i am now up to a 26-27 inch standing and a 30-30+ inch running. i think the gains are actually higher cuz when i was tested i was still sore and tired. i can now ALMOST (about 2 inches off) touch the rim at 5'8 and a half. the gains were mostly due to a 30 plus pound increase on my squat, putting me at being able to squat 230 ALL THE WAY DOWN. it used to be 205, so i really got stronger.
stats now: 5'8.5, 138-142 pounds, 5 % body fat, max squat: 230 ATG and 250 parralel.
my next workout is 2morrow, ill keep you all updated
o ya, and also im 15.
Last edited by daballerwhoballs : 05-15-2008 at 05:36 PM.
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05-15-2008, 06:16 PM
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Re: vjb journal, already done lots of it, check it out
not worth it to do such heavy wieght training now man, ur screwing up ur growing age. dont do heavy weights until ur 18. i mean, u have ur whole life left to get more muscle, but growing only happens once, u know what im sayin
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Height: 5'11"
Standing Reach: 7'7"
Weight: 140
Standing vertical: 20"
Running vertical: 28"
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05-15-2008, 06:46 PM
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Re: vjb journal, already done lots of it, check it out
Weight lifting stunting growth is a myth me and greybluehound have both started strength training at an early age. I haven't had any problems so don't make stuff up go research it you'll see your wrong.
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05-16-2008, 10:51 AM
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Re: vjb journal, already done lots of it, check it out
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Originally Posted by ibetan
not worth it to do such heavy wieght training now man, ur screwing up ur growing age. dont do heavy weights until ur 18. i mean, u have ur whole life left to get more muscle, but growing only happens once, u know what im sayin
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I am one of the people who believed in this stupid myth. Weight training cannot stunt your growth . The only way that it can is if you dont do proper form, get injured or keep lifting your 1RM.
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Height: 5,9"
Weight: 141lbs/64kgs
Reach : 7,7"
Wing Span : 6,3"
Standing Vertical: 27 inches(last tested-May 1)
Running Vertical: 30 inches
Goal Standing Vertical: 45 inches
Goal Running Vertical: 50 inches
Position: PG, SG, SF
Program: VJB Novice Weighs + Stronglifts 5*5
Soccer-Basketball-Rugby
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05-16-2008, 12:40 PM
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Re: vjb journal, already done lots of it, check it out
Not going to lift weights until 18? Ha ha. OK man. I had people in my school lifting really heavy stuff and growing until 6'4/6'5. Yes, I know that's not super tall but they were built like shit brickhouses and besides BBall was not their sport. Anyway that's my 2 cents. I think I have said it enough that lifting does not in itself stunt your growth. There's enough research on the net to support recommending strength training to kids. Personally I think that 13-14 is about the right age to get started - when you hit 15 then that's when they big gains come in.
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BW @ 23 Jul 08: 145lbs (>13%bf)
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05-16-2008, 01:45 PM
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Re: vjb journal, already done lots of it, check it out
im doing novice weights and the rzn i dont use heavy weights is cuz i have terrible form and I don’t want to lift heavy weight with brutal form so im adding 5 lbs every week.
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05-17-2008, 06:56 AM
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Re: vjb journal, already done lots of it, check it out
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Originally Posted by the.dream.34
im doing novice weights and the rzn i dont use heavy weights is cuz i have terrible form and I don’t want to lift heavy weight with brutal form so im adding 5 lbs every week.
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Ya adding 5lbs every week is fine. If you think that ur form is bad then ask someone else were ur lifting weights for some help 
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Height: 5,9"
Weight: 141lbs/64kgs
Reach : 7,7"
Wing Span : 6,3"
Standing Vertical: 27 inches(last tested-May 1)
Running Vertical: 30 inches
Goal Standing Vertical: 45 inches
Goal Running Vertical: 50 inches
Position: PG, SG, SF
Program: VJB Novice Weighs + Stronglifts 5*5
Soccer-Basketball-Rugby
Last edited by LakersFan7 : 05-17-2008 at 10:55 AM.
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05-17-2008, 09:02 AM
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Re: vjb journal, already done lots of it, check it out
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Originally Posted by the.dream.34
im doing novice weights and the rzn i dont use heavy weights is cuz i have terrible form and I don’t want to lift heavy weight with brutal form so im adding 5 lbs every week.
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That's wise. Obviously you start somewhere light before you can progress to the heavier stuff.
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Height 5'7 Reach approx 7'0
BW @ 23 Jul 08: 145lbs (>13%bf)
Re-training start: Jul 08 (post injury+3 mths rehab)
Vertical Training Forum: www.theverticalsummit.com
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05-17-2008, 02:10 PM
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Re: vjb journal, already done lots of it, check it out
ok so i did my workout yesterday. no plyos cuz i got a game on sunday. i did 4 sets of squats, 3 sets of front squats, 2 sets of leg extensions , 3 sets of leg curls, and 4 sets of calve raises. for the squats i did 4 sets of 4. i am now repping 4 times with 205 (last week i was repping with 195), 205 was surprisingly just my max two months ago. i can now atg 235 at 140 pounds. im hoping for some increase on my vert, im soooooo close to touching the rim at 5;8. oh, and i been working out for a long time and i have still been consistenly growing. just make sure, like the guy before me said, to workout with PROPER form. my next workout is on tuesday, ill keep you updated.
Last edited by daballerwhoballs : 05-17-2008 at 02:12 PM.
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