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rangerid · #21 (**permalink**) 08-19-2007, 10:09 PM

w/e man! i honestly dont give a shit! doesnt matter anyways cuz my gyms clsoed and i cnat squat or deadlift :{

24forlife · #22 (**permalink**) 08-19-2007, 10:20 PM

well look i dont care cuz ur not my doctor, u can keep ur 5 inch vert!

rangerid · #23 (**permalink**) 08-19-2007, 10:32 PM

i agree... if you wnat to increas your vert, you MUST squat and deadlift, its not an choice, its a must. In fact, according to a lot of personal trainers and sports specialists, deadlift is the second best exercise out ther just cuz of the muscles it trains.

if you are only gona look at the negatives, you are never gona get anythign accomplished in your life. sometimes you have to look at the negativse and postives of everything.

sure deadlift might make you shorter by half an inch, but it will no doubt give you a killer vert and make you very strong. the positives just outweights the negatives. and i am not even sure how much the negatives are gona affect you.

The Main Event · #24 (**permalink**) 08-19-2007, 11:01 PM

stay on topic plz. its pointless arguin cuz neither of ur minds will be swayed........

*argument over*

rangerid · #25 (**permalink**) 08-19-2007, 11:11 PM

we are on topic... we are havign a nice friendly chat about whether squat and deadlift will stun your growth. cuz accoridng to unknown, they release Estrogen which speeds up the closing of your growth plates.

thats what you were asking right? whether VJB weights will stun your growth. Squats and deadlift are the main exercise for VJB so we are very well on topic here!

The Main Event · #26 (**permalink**) 08-19-2007, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rangerid

we are on topic... we are havign a nice friendly chat about whether squat and deadlift will stun your growth. cuz accoridng to unknown, they release Estrogen which speeds up the closing of your growth plates.

thats what you were asking right? whether VJB weights will stun your growth. Squats and deadlift are the main exercise for VJB so we are very well on topic here!

*sure* you are.............
it all good then. i just dont want the thread closed over something stupid.

Miljan23 · #27 (**permalink**) 08-19-2007, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rangerid

we are on topic... we are havign a nice friendly chat about whether squat and deadlift will stun your growth. cuz accoridng to unknown, they release Estrogen which speeds up the closing of your growth plates.

thats what you were asking right? whether VJB weights will stun your growth. Squats and deadlift are the main exercise for VJB so we are very well on topic here!

lol nice comeback...but where is redsoxfan and maybe even that jaydub guy when u need them... but i have no clue about growth plates and estrogen or w/e but there is a myth that says lifting can stunt ur growth, and i have been told that is not true, so then how can squat stunt ur growth if it is considered lifting?...and i no ranger knows his stuff so im gunna take his side, unless unkown has read as much ebooks as ranger....

ezza · #28 (**permalink**) 08-20-2007, 03:24 AM

lol man most people that enta in nba draft r all skinny n stuff cos they dont get all day to hit the gym like nba peeps 2 as well as how tall they are. u also cant tell what their vert is just cos some dudes skinny cud hav killer hops.

unknown101 · #29 (**permalink**) 08-20-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ezza

lol man most people that enta in nba draft r all skinny n stuff cos they dont get all day to hit the gym like nba peeps 2 as well as how tall they are. u also cant tell what their vert is just cos some dudes skinny cud hav killer hops.

You know why? Because there practicing *basketball*

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24forlife

well look i dont care cuz ur not my doctor, u can keep ur 5 inch vert!

Ok... I have a 5 inch vert, there is no way you have a running vert of 35 inches.

you are 5'8, you are gonna be playing guard no exceptions, do you seriously think vert is gonna help you? don't say you are going to drive and dunk because you will get crushed at 5'8 In any AAU CAMP.. also you are 16 at 5'8 chances of you hitting 6'3+ is very rare. especially with the kind of workouts you have

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Early postnatal effects

Early postnatal effects are the first visible effects of rising androgen levels in childhood, and occur in both boys and girls in puberty.

* Adult-type body odour
* Increased oiliness of skin and hair, acne
* Pubarche (appearance of pubic hair)
* Axillary hair
* Growth spurt, accelerated bone maturation *KEYWORD*
* Fine upper lip and sideburn hair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphysis
Epiphysis is the name for a rounded end of a long bone. The epiphysis is filled with red marrow, which produces erythrocytes, or red blood cells. Located in the epiphysis is the epiphysial plate, also known as the growth plate.

*testosterone accelerates BONE MATURATION WHICH ACCELERATES your growth plates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty

http://www.4-men.org/increasing-testosterone.html
To beef up your testosterone levels, the bulk of your workouts should involve "compound" weight-lifting exercises that train several large muscle groups, and not just one or two smaller muscles (say like your eyelids). Example: studies show that doing squats, bench presses or back rows increase your levels more than doing curls, tricep push-downs, etc...even though the effort may seem and feel the same. That's why doing squats can help you build bigger biceps. If taking a squat would do the same thing, I'd be the next Hulk Hogan.

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http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Inc...quats&id=65066
http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Squ...Form&id=294692
http://www.ifpa-fitness.com/IFPA-Fit..._the_squat.htm

plz rangerid and the other ignorant ppl take a look then tell me im wrong...

rangerid · #30 (**permalink**) 08-20-2007, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by unknown101

You know why? Because there practicing *basketball*

Ok... I have a 5 inch vert, there is no way you have a running vert of 35 inches.

you are 5'8, you are gonna be playing guard no exceptions, do you seriously think vert is gonna help you? don't say you are going to drive and dunk because you will get crushed at 5'8 In any AAU CAMP.. also you are 16 at 5'8 chances of you hitting 6'3+ is very rare. especially with the kind of workouts you have

--------------------------------------------------------------
Early postnatal effects

Early postnatal effects are the first visible effects of rising androgen levels in childhood, and occur in both boys and girls in puberty.

* Adult-type body odour
* Increased oiliness of skin and hair, acne
* Pubarche (appearance of pubic hair)
* Axillary hair
* Growth spurt, accelerated bone maturation *KEYWORD*
* Fine upper lip and sideburn hair
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphysis
Epiphysis is the name for a rounded end of a long bone. The epiphysis is filled with red marrow, which produces erythrocytes, or red blood cells. Located in the epiphysis is the epiphysial plate, also known as the growth plate.

*testosterone accelerates BONE MATURATION WHICH ACCELERATES your growth plates

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_age
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puberty

http://www.4-men.org/increasing-testosterone.html
To beef up your testosterone levels, the bulk of your workouts should involve "compound" weight-lifting exercises that train several large muscle groups, and not just one or two smaller muscles (say like your eyelids). Example: studies show that doing squats, bench presses or back rows increase your levels more than doing curls, tricep push-downs, etc...even though the effort may seem and feel the same. That's why doing squats can help you build bigger biceps. If taking a squat would do the same thing, I'd be the next Hulk Hogan.

----------------------------------------------
http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Inc...quats&id=65066
http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Squ...Form&id=294692
http://www.ifpa-fitness.com/IFPA-Fit..._the_squat.htm

plz rangerid and the other ignorant ppl take a look then tell me im wrong...

unknown you cant win you know that right? even if what you siad was true ppl wont stop liftin and squating. its just too much positives. so what if it makes you lose half an inch on your height?

i much ratehr have a 45inch vert than be half an inch shorter of my max height... anyone who play bball would.

also,why wouldnt you freakin beleive 24forlife have a35.5 inch run vert? you are not gona get very far in life if you doubt those who are better than you...