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Old 07-11-2007, 06:24 PM
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today i had an interview with another strength coach i was told not to release his name. as we know you thought you needed to squat 1.5 bodyweight to do plyos. he said if you work your way up to different levels of plyo training you can be doing high depth jumps. he was also telling me how he thought coaches were misguiding people to believing you needed this strength, and how people in the nba can dunk and have very high verts and not even be able to squat there 1.5 bodyweight, and also agreed with me on bodyweight strength training, he reccomended some strength coaches to talk with and ill ask him for some more info. if you have any i mean really important questions about training i will contact these people and get info. but before you ask a question make sure you say if you want me or some trainer to answer it, they are way more advanced i am only accepting the next five questions sent to me, they must be important.i thought i would tell you this and sorry for the length orf the messages.you must post the questions on this thread. i wil try to get them answered.
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:36 PM
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Question Re: actual strength to do plyos

yes. im question #1....
Q: what is a good plyo program that we should follow...... and can u tell us how u got ur vert soooooo high?

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Old 07-11-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: actual strength to do plyos

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so u saying bodyweight exercises are superior to weights? so should i be focusing more on pistol squats other than squatin?
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Default Re: actual strength to do plyos

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so u saying bodyweight exercises are superior to weights? so should i be focusing more on pistol squats other than squatin?
o yea i was gonna ask that also!!
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:57 AM
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Q3 for a trainer.

what is the ideal weight to be squating to have good affects from plyo? eg. 1.5x bodyweight, 2x bodyweight, pistl squats?

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Deadlift: 88kg (194lb)

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Default Re: actual strength to do plyos

i believe body weight exercises are a hell of a load better than weights for your vert. my opinion some will argue otherwise but life goes on.
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yes. im question #1....
Q: what is a good plyo program that we should follow...... and can u tell us how u got ur vert soooooo high?

thanks

we all know the best programs to follow these are the ones i like, tvp, vjb, and i like jumping advantage, and athletic advantage, they are all good and i reccomend them, but i think vjb is overall good for everyone it is a one size fits all program.
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so u saying bodyweight exercises are superior to weights? so should i be focusing more on pistol squats other than squatin?
no weights can be better for your vertical, if you have access to them but you have to do 45-60 percent 1 rep. and the main exercises deadlifts and squats are all extremely bad for your body deadlifts kill your back even if you do them correct and lock your back, squats are bad for upper back and sometimes neck. but look at bodyweight exercises they are overall safe and there explosively done, and there are many different levels of exercises that it can keep you working for years but. and anyways squatting 1.5 and doing 5 pistol squats are similer and both challenge the body to keep getting stronger. i have mentioned to you this before why come gymnasts who never worked out with weights can go into a gym and lift a ton and they have never lifted before. so both the forms are good but strength training may win but just by a little bit because of the power output it gives you. but you can do both to get ready for plyos.
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what is the ideal weight to be squating to have good affects from plyo? eg. 1.5x bodyweight, 2x bodyweight, pistl squats?

thanks alot
you do not need a trainer besides me for that you need 1.5 bodyweight or 5 pistol squats but i always reccomrend ten because kelly bagett was being nice.
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thers 2 more left make them important enough to see the trainer, i think we have covered about everything on this forum but respond if you wish , if they are not important enough i will answer them.
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