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Lil-Saint · #41 (**permalink**) 06-17-2007, 07:38 PM

lol thnx for ruinin it for me lol im playin but its plyos so i hope it will work for me i need to talk 2 sari more.

Sari · #42 (**permalink**) 06-17-2007, 08:47 PM

im here.....haha im actually thinkin of bein a trainer (if i study that, i can have a degree and kno how to improve my game greatly) but i learned most of my stuff from J-mac he's also a sports conditionalist i think

aim-high · #43 (**permalink**) 06-18-2007, 01:08 AM

man im gessing your pretty quick on your feet so doing the plyo will help out a bit......but if you want to see big gains you need to be able to make alot of force youv already got the speed so id say work on your strength base.

cuz you aint got the weights to do the novice weights program id say go with the bodyweight program its bloody hard but im sure it will work. i did the first week of it and its real hard it will realy show if your commited to improving your hops, but in the long run im sure it will work
and then afta you done the bodyweight program then your be able to start on the novice plyo

gud luck man hope it helps

Lil-Saint · #44 (**permalink**) 06-18-2007, 03:26 AM

Ok Sari, aim-high you 2 and or any1 else that can help me out plz add me on msn DumisaniChengeta@hotmail.com if you can help me out.

Aim-high i was thinkin of as soon as im done with begginers plyo im movin straight to novice but u say do bedy weight first and man am i commited lol im willin to do anythin it will be painfull i can imagine but im willin so why do u think i should do the bodyweight frist then plyo more gains? better for me? why?

And sari what do you think i should do?

aim-high · #45 (**permalink**) 06-18-2007, 09:34 PM

hey man

What you need to do is get a good strength base first so if you got gym access then do novice weights, if you dont then do body weight.
The reason for this is that when you do weights it makes the long twitch fibers in your legs increas in mass and then once you have made a good strength base you can then start plyo.
plyo will make those long twitch fibers respond faster and helps your brain send signals to your legs to make them respond faster

soooooooooo

weights- increase mass of the fibers, power out put (the power your legs can put out per second), and size of your legs

plyometrics- increase speed your muscles respond at, and also help increase the time it takes to send signals from your brain to your legs

does this make sense???????

i hope so
let me know what you think

redsoxfan15 · #46 (**permalink**) 06-18-2007, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by aim-high

hey man

What you need to do is get a good strength base first so if you got gym access then do novice weights, if you dont then do body weight.
The reason for this is that when you do weights it makes the long twitch fibers in your legs increas in mass and then once you have made a good strength base you can then start plyo.
plyo will make those long twitch fibers respond faster and helps your brain send signals to your legs to make them respond faster

soooooooooo

weights- increase mass of the fibers, power out put (the power your legs can put out per second), and size of your legs

plyometrics- increase speed your muscles respond at, and also help increase the time it takes to send signals from your brain to your legs

does this make sense???????

i hope so
let me know what you think

weight lifting does not create or make bigger fast twitch muscle fibers , isometrics and static stretches recruit unused fibers that you already had to make you faster and jump higher no one can create new fibers.

aim-high · #47 (**permalink**) 06-18-2007, 10:03 PM

doing weights incress the mass of each long twitch fibers. it says it in the vjb!

redsoxfan15 · #48 (**permalink**) 06-18-2007, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aim-high

doing weights incress the mass of each long twitch fibers. it says it in the vjb!

thats not what he meant then it says you use more fibers it does not make them bigger trust me.

aim-high · #49 (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 01:00 AM

well still its a postive on lifting weights i just read it the wrong way sorry man i get it now. was everything else i said right?

Lil-Saint · #50 (**permalink**) 06-19-2007, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redsoxfan15

weight lifting does not create or make bigger fast twitch muscle fibers , isometrics and static stretches recruit unused fibers that you already had to make you faster and jump higher no one can create new fibers.

It has neva been put any better thnx a lot man but what if u do it the other way round the plyos first then the weights what would happen or if u do ploys only would it still work out for ya for maximum gains?