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Old 11-03-2007, 11:05 AM
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Hey All,

WBV stands for "whole body vibration". Apparantly this training alone increase vertical jump ability by approximately 14%. It's just some vibrating platform you stand on for approx. 10 minutes per day. Here is the link for all the info and how it actually works: http://www.reflexbodyplate.com/wbv.htm

Has anyone used this or reckon it actually works? 14% increase in vertical leap is seriously awesome!! That means an increase of 2-6 inches for most people.

I'm going to do more reading on it. If anyone has used something like this then I'd love to hear your opinion.

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Old 11-03-2007, 11:20 AM
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i dunno im kinda skeptical cuz i mean they used celebs as a marketing ploy,but thats just me,id love to hear any success stories tho to prove me wrong,but id stick to hitting the gym over this
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:51 PM
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Hey, I found another article on this WBV training which focuses more on the sporting benefits. http://www.galileowholebodyvibration...o_benefits.pdf

There is a heap of scientific testing that verifies the benefits... I've just spent the last 4 hours reading up on this thing. I should try and get some sleep because it's just gone 4am here!

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Old 11-04-2007, 01:44 AM
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Hey, I found another article on this WBV training which focuses more on the sporting benefits. http://www.galileowholebodyvibration...o_benefits.pdf

There is a heap of scientific testing that verifies the benefits... I've just spent the last 4 hours reading up on this thing. I should try and get some sleep because it's just gone 4am here!

Mig
so you just stand on a platform that vibrates then you gain inches on vertical.

Sounds too good to be true.

is there scientific evidence behind it??
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Old 11-04-2007, 04:07 AM
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so you just stand on a platform that vibrates then you gain inches on vertical.

Sounds too good to be true.

is there scientific evidence behind it??
Yeah, I saw a few research papers backing it up. I was also surprised by how many teams are using this training approach. Many of the Australian basketball teams were reporting good results with it. There is a list of NBA teams that are using it as well if you google hard enough. The scientiffic papers basically said that it works due to the vibrations providing a moderate level of shock to the muscles, this simulates a weight training effect, even to the point where the body produces increased hormones to respond to the stress. I just looked up the price of one of these machines and I was shocked to see the price at $6000 US dollars!!! DAMN!! It's mostly used by rehabilition centres and good health clubs due to that high price tag.

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Old 11-04-2007, 10:43 AM
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Yeah, I saw a few research papers backing it up. I was also surprised by how many teams are using this training approach. Many of the Australian basketball teams were reporting good results with it. There is a list of NBA teams that are using it as well if you google hard enough. The scientiffic papers basically said that it works due to the vibrations providing a moderate level of shock to the muscles, this simulates a weight training effect, even to the point where the body produces increased hormones to respond to the stress. I just looked up the price of one of these machines and I was shocked to see the price at $6000 US dollars!!! DAMN!! It's mostly used by rehabilition centres and good health clubs due to that high price tag.

Mig
You still have to do exercises on it, but if the trainer or therapist does not know what they are doing the vibe platform can shock your body too much and cause you to pass out. We use it mostly to supplement athletes regular workout or rehab routines (along with ROM machines) but its by no means an end all solution.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:28 PM
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mig my perents friends have one do you think it would be worth a try or not?

also what exercises would you have to do? lyk squats and stuff
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:03 PM
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You still have to do exercises on it, but if the trainer or therapist does not know what they are doing the vibe platform can shock your body too much and cause you to pass out. We use it mostly to supplement athletes regular workout or rehab routines (along with ROM machines) but its by no means an end all solution.
do you do the exercises on it????

or along with it???

and what kind of exercises??
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:43 AM
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do you do the exercises on it????

or along with it???

and what kind of exercises??
One study in Germany just had the college students standing on the WBV machine for 2 minutes a day. At the end of the program, a group of 18 people reported and average increase of 14% to their vertical leap. I still have the link to that study if anyone was interested and just to check I remembered the facts correctly if they sound too extreme.

The program they used lasted 6 weeks and the people had 1 or 2 days to rest each week (sorry, can't remember if it was exactly 1, or two days off). They also had to have all their limbs slightly bent whilst standing on the platform because the vibrations cause stress to the joints if they are locked. Apparently the best gains in strength were found when the platform was set to vibrate a 25-27 times per second, with an osilation height of 8-10mm. If the vibration is slowed to approximately 10 times per second then scientists have found it helps to increase bone density (therefore the machine gets used sometimes in nursing homes because the old people can relive osteoperosis).

I didn't find any research on people actually doing exercises on it so I hope the other stuff I found there was still helpful. 14% increase is pretty good really... Our premier footy club where I live just bought a similar type of machine for their club costing $20,000 Aussie dollars. The coach had just made a press statement saying he wants all his team's training routines to be private, then the local paper prints a story on this expensive WBV machine they just bought LOL.

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One study in Germany just had the college students standing on the WBV machine for 2 minutes a day. At the end of the program, a group of 18 people reported and average increase of 14% to their vertical leap. I still have the link to that study if anyone was interested and just to check I remembered the facts correctly if they sound too extreme.

The program they used lasted 6 weeks and the people had 1 or 2 days to rest each week (sorry, can't remember if it was exactly 1, or two days off). They also had to have all their limbs slightly bent whilst standing on the platform because the vibrations cause stress to the joints if they are locked. Apparently the best gains in strength were found when the platform was set to vibrate a 25-27 times per second, with an osilation height of 8-10mm. If the vibration is slowed to approximately 10 times per second then scientists have found it helps to increase bone density (therefore the machine gets used sometimes in nursing homes because the old people can relive osteoperosis).

I didn't find any research on people actually doing exercises on it so I hope the other stuff I found there was still helpful. 14% increase is pretty good really... Our premier footy club where I live just bought a similar type of machine for their club costing $20,000 Aussie dollars. The coach had just made a press statement saying he wants all his team's training routines to be private, then the local paper prints a story on this expensive WBV machine they just bought LOL.

Cheers,

Mig
Click on the link and look at the exercises they are doing
http://www.mypowerplate.com/main.html that is how you are supposed to use it. The Power Plate is a lot more effective for Rehab then for performance training. We have two power plates and two ROM machines and the are more vanity products then they are functional sports training devices. Power plates mostly benefit old people who can't do regular training and people who have what we call celeb syndrome. I have a lot of older clients come into my clinic after surgery so its useful for them. A lot of Pro teams have them because Power Plate companies give them to the teams for free in exchange for rights to use their names in future research and marketing campaigns. If you want expensive "high tech" training that works go put on the motion capture suits stand on the force plates and have your biomechanics corrected. You guys in Australia have one of the greatest sports training resources in the world the AIS at your doorstep get on the list and you can get it done there.
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