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Old 12-11-2005, 06:17 AM
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showstopper and ILL-B-Back show you how it's all streetball things looks today. But you know WhiteWizard streetball it is also hard game like in streetball leagues, for win. There are rules but maybe little more liberal like I said. Then you use only legal moves, which can help you to cross a guard, to score buckets. Play like in Nike Battlegtound 2003 or 2004 it is streetball too, but little hardest with leading rule no blood no foul. My man Monty write an article about What streetball is? and he describe every kind of streetball game. Unfortunately article is too long and my english not too good so I will not transtale it, but it's explain every aspect of streetball, like freestyle, free games, streetball leagues games, games with no blood no foul rule.

WhiteWizard I never said that streetballers are better players than pros. But i tell you something. In the past in original Rucker league or other summer streetball leagues play many future NBA players like: Kareem as a Lew Alcindor, Wilt, Julius, Nate Archibald, Wilid Reed, Earl Monroe, Connie Hawkins, Walter Berry, Lloyd Daniels, Charlie Scott, or even Bill Bradley. They play against pure streetballers, like Earl "The Goat" Manigault, Pee Wee Kirkland, Fly Williams, Destroyer Hammond, Herman "Helicopter' Knowings, Billy "The Kid" Harris, Jackie "Jumpin" Jackson or later Hook Mitchell, Ron "The Terminator" Matthias. Many of the was beaten by loco stars. They play hard for win with little mor flashy actions or even few tricks. That was more straight basketball, but Like I said it was old school. Many of those stars was added to the list of Old School Legends, publish by SLAM Magazine, you can check it here

http://www.speedballing.e-basket.pl/...toria_artykuly



Below you can also find "Legends of the Playground" book, unfortunately not in English:

http://www.acb.com/redaccion.php?id=17056

You can find out that many NBA stars was also playground stars.


After all these years streetball EVOLVE to today's form. And if you think taht tricks are invention of new millennium you're wrong. Many of this tricks was created by Harlem Globetrotters ballers more than 40 years ago If you wanna check it, I recommend you document movie Harlem Globetrotters: Six Decedes Of Magic. Then you'll see.

And if you wanna proves for streetballplayas with some college experience ok: Skip - Fresno, Prime Objective - Georgetown, Tru Baller - South Alabama, Smush Parker - Fordham, Myree "Remix" Bowden (YPA) - University of the Pacific, Mike "Silky Smooth" Campbell - Long Island, Cardell "Ballahollic" Butler - Utah State, Antwan "Antifreeze" Dobie - Long Island, Shammgod - Providence. Many of them you don't even know but they still play in some streetball leagues in the summer and after the summer like many other basketball playas in some semi or pro leagues.

Another thing like I said streetball is also one of the steps in basketball carrier. Many today's NBA players was played or even started in streetball leagues, for example: Stephon "Handler" Marbury, Ron "Tru Warrior" Artest, Sebastian "2 Fast 2 Furious" Telfair, Jamaal "Mel Mel The Abuser"Tinsley, Allen "The Answer" Iverson . More for example here

http://www.ebcsports.com/archive.html

and thats olny list from EBC, not mention other leagues.

Ok. That's all. So WhiteWizard I'm waitin for another weak arguments from your side You know I got this felling that some of playground playas hurt you so much. That's the reson of your hate to streetball. but your opinions are your opinions and I respect it. But you know in my country we use to say that only cows doesn't change their minds. No offence. That's just a adage. Peace
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Thank you for naming off a bunch of guys with questionable reputations. That's exactly what WhiteWizard is talking about. It is because of the presence of the streetballers that the NBA has turned into such a joke of a game. Each year more and more rules get tossed out the window to accommodate the new generation of streetballers and thugs. The NBA missed the point too when they tried to get back some of the former fans of the game by implementing a dress code. It's not what the players wear before and after the game that is the problem. It's the game on the court that drives spectators away. It's letting Lebron James take six or seven steps on his way to the basket and not calling a traveling violation. It's letting Shaq send the defender to the floor before using all two inches of his vertical leap to get up and dunk it. Those are the things that have ruined the game. If you want to go to the playground and check out the streetball, that's fine. But there are people who want to see the game played how it was meant to be played. The NBA is supposed to provide that opportunity. It once did many years ago. Now it is just a playground and the low attendance in most of the arenas throughout the league is an indication of the disgust that a lot of the former fans have.
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Like I said Shaq is one of privileged players, why I don't know, the same Lebron. But it is a NBA problem. We still talk about streetball. Streetball was and will be a streetball. I don't know why breaking rules for example by this 2 players with little could help league. Ohhh maybe it is overhead rule from NBA commissioner, who try to help the show. If not I don't know why I don't know why referees do it. But like I said it's a NBA problem. If I want to see some show I just watch And 1 Tour, Rucker game, Harlem Globetrotters, or some mixtape. When I wanna watch regular basketball game I turn some league game not necessarily NBA, but also other national leagues. I like both game styles and I can separate it without any problems if we talk about the rules in streetball and basketball. But all this problem with privileged players not exist from today. Cases like with this 2 players was more in the past too. So I dont think that's the ruinous effect of streetball, especially streetball of new millennium. Free style of the game in da hood or some streetball leagues exist from a long time. And I repeat it again privileged players - are NBA problem, streetball had nothing to do with it.
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Old 12-15-2005, 06:15 PM
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see ballin is over use to apoint. let take the baller test . if u have 100 dallers in yo pockets that not ballin. but if you are bang in a game you's a ballin. if you have 300m that not ballin but if you got 55 points in a game ballin.(please dont not take this as real it a joke) my fellow hooper it just a name only a name. just be easy. name no buckets yes. yell at me
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see ballin is over use to apoint. let take the baller test . if u have 100 dallers in yo pockets that not ballin. but if you are bang in a game you's a ballin. if you have 300m that not ballin but if you got 55 points in a game ballin.(please dont not take this as real it a joke) my fellow hooper it just a name only a name. just be easy. name no buckets yes. yell at me
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