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Old 12-03-2006, 06:25 PM
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This has been in my mind for a really long time.

I think streetball has really hurt the way people play the game. That is not necessarily a bad thing, but I feel too many stray from the fundamentals needed to play regular ball.

That's putting it mildly.

Kids today... They're working on the wrong part of their game. They don't care about their shooting form, or their defense, or finding the open man, etc... All they wanna do is put the ball through a dude's legs. Explain this: how does putting the ball help you get a bucket?

You think Hot Sauce is gonna get the D with the hypnotizer? All he doing is giving the ball away. With a shot like that too... he be missing shots like my brother. And lets face it. In a real game, you need buckets to win.

Again, I'm not saying streetball is bad. But fundamentals are what basketball is based on.

Just try and recall if any of you have seen this. Two players are going one-on-one. Guy with the ball got a little bit of handle going there. Dribbles the ball through his legs, spins on the floor alot, crosses his man, for no reason comes back and crosses him again, drives and misses the open layup.

That's exactly what I'm talking about. And you say to yourself, why is a fool like that on the court?

ALL the streetball legends, they could flat out play. They'd get the W. But some people don't understand that those legends have probably sweat on the court longer than they've even been alive. All they wanna do is watch videos, and go out and drop cats. Reality check... it's not gonna happen.

I'm probably gonna get much hate for this.

But if you don't listen, you only have yourself to blame when you're twenty-five and get picked second from last before the old guy with arthritis.

I'm out.
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Old 12-03-2006, 07:07 PM
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ya alot of ppl have already mentioned that streetball is affecting the kids today cuz all them kids wanna do is tricks and not funtamentals. this might be true and i do agree with you, but i guess this all depends on how much someone loves the game of basketball, if your goal is to play in one of the pro leagues then i guess you should focus on funtamentals, but if you just wanna show off on the streets then focusing on tricks isnt so bad
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:48 AM
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it sounds like im gettin it real twisted here but serzly streetball is fundamentals (in australia where i play) not many ppl do the tricks, what they do on the hardwood is usually what they do on the streets but im not saying ppl dont do the tricks, but streetball to me involves both the fundamentals and those tricks..that are allowed

one the of juniors in siw practices everyday and owns at skool well sorta but u can see that he is playing to the best of his ability, only recently did he just start doing tricks, on ppl with BAD D - i noticed get done by him.... happens to most ppl when u see on and1 but when u see the ones playing with agressive D which might not be the BEST D or the correct D it works half the time the only problem is that they forget about their open legs and the fact that the guy can just backdoor over his head and run away..but usually its almost impossible to do tricks on people that have D that at least moves with u

i know that with the CORRECT D when doing tricks on the junior..and he is really quick btw he is taiwanese benji =p ....it never works on him coz of the pressure.

So, to sum up the game of street basketball - how it is played is determined by the opponents defense

take another look at yo and1 mixtapes which ones got the correct D, where are their hands at which way their toes are pointing.....if yaz dont know what im on about then ill just stop right there =p get sum textbook knowledge of the game or alternatively u can just watch the better basketball program =)
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Old 12-04-2006, 12:50 AM
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alright, yes i can understand where you are coming from,(benjaminlibl), and in some way's i do agree with what you have said and i am not hating at all ok.

From my perspective's of the game, "Basketball", obviously you do need the fundemental's and a summary of quotes from many of the AND1 players have said ,(thats if anyone has been paying what so ever any attetion to them), is," that before even bothering with the tricks, dunks and so forth, you need to get the basics right i.e dribbling, shooting, techique, transaction, foot-work, etc".

However from my own understanding's of, "streetball", you might think from your own opinion that, (Quote): benjaminlibl ,"Kids today... They're working on the wrong part of their game. They don't care about their shooting form, or their defense, or finding the open man, etc... All they wanna do is put the ball through a dude's legs. Explain this: how does putting the ball help you get a bucket?

Sorry mate but that is where you are miss-understanding yourself ok, yes some kids but not all work on tricks and like you said put the ball between there legs or bounce it of there heads but they are the people who are just fan's and kids who just want to have fun, mack-around or don't respect the game.

Nevertheless thier are those like myself who dream on getting into AND1, that bust our asses off not just working on tricks but fundementals as well because do you seriously think, that e.g. Hotsauce, Silk and all the other players got into the game just because of tricks?

No they didnt, even tho you may disagree with me, they worked just as hardon fundementals as any other part of there game. Anyway I hope you understand my point and peace...
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:06 AM
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Yes. Actually, I believe that Hot Sauce(not mentioning Silk) only got in because he brings a certain entertaining quality. I mean, watching Sauce handle the ball is beautiful. His cross is just... I admit it myself. And don't you just love it when he throws the ball off the D's head?

But put him in a situation where he had to score to win the game, and he'd not be any use. I ain't directing this at anyone, you gotta understand. I am just sick and tired of seeing people, fans, basically, calling themselves "streetballers", making up nicknames for themselves, and all they know is freestyles and can't play a lick of basketball.

I know some people, like yourself HotSauce fan(because you're not Hot Sauce) "bust their ass" and work hard to play real ball. This is not directed to you.

"From my perspective's of the game, "Basketball", obviously you do need the fundemental's and a summary of quotes from many of the AND1 players have said ,(thats if anyone has been paying what so ever any attetion to them), is," that before even bothering with the tricks, dunks and so forth, you need to get the basics right i.e dribbling, shooting, techique, transaction, foot-work, etc"."

Those players know what they're talking about. Good thing you were listening.

"It sounds like im gettin it real twisted here but serzly streetball is fundamentals (in australia where i play) not many ppl do the tricks, what they do on the hardwood is usually what they do on the streets but im not saying ppl dont do the tricks, but streetball to me involves both the fundamentals and those tricks..that are allowed"

I guess it depends on the different styles of streetball. Hey man, I get it. It's just many "streetball" games, you see alot of one-on-one play, no real D, and they were giving the ball away at the expense of nice looking tricks.

"take another look at yo and1 mixtapes which ones got the correct D, where are their hands at which way their toes are pointing.....if yaz dont know what im on about then ill just stop right there =p get sum textbook knowledge of the game or alternatively u can just watch the better basketball program =)"

You saying I don't know the game? Man... I can't believe I'm hearing that shit from you. And what is your point? I read through the whole post, and I'm still not getting it. Are you disagreeing or agreeing? Cause I don't get that shit.

Like I said, much hate.
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Old 12-04-2006, 06:14 AM
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ok, (benjaminlibl), what ever, just play basketball and stay away from streetball.. pce
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Hater..... Good idea, b****.
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:13 PM
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no disrespect but u know that defense, passing, and ball intelligence is prolly more important than getting buckets for fundemental.......
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:51 PM
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OK... I'm wrong. Thanks for all the info.

*CLOSED*

P.S. If anyone wants to agree/disagree, send me a PM. I'll read it and get back to you.
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