StreetBallTalk.com - Wow I Hate Organized Basketball....Help Please?

strydR_ · #21 (**permalink**) 07-24-2006, 05:23 AM

ur exactly like me atm....but i just started playing on the hardwood recently

i alwaiz make passers dat dont go anywhere

Sik_Kent · #22 (**permalink**) 07-24-2006, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Da Bully

Ok 1st off lets get this str8 IF u suck at Organized ball u suck at streetball too.
U have to understand the game Streetball is street basketball Organized ball is basketball they're are damn near the same if u got game.
1st know your position & where you are supposed to be at all times...w/out know that u can't win in any type of game. Oragnized is easier than street b/c u knwo exactly who your playing against ie. high schoolers, D1,2,3 college whatever i structured for your talent group, the street isn't so u have to be more aggressive. But if you can't run plays u can't play it's that simple & it sounds to me like your struggling w/ the basics of the game like movement, footwork & positioning. Here's what u do:
Identify your position G,F,C & watch everyone who plays it & see how they play where they rotate to yada yada.

I get tired of guys who say they good in street but not organized it makes u sound lame, & they r b/c they are the ones that just run up & down injuring folks & u'll find that better players wouldn't want to play w/ u no matter how much U think your doing well.

So your pretty much saying that i dont have game cuz i had trouble trying to get a feel for organised comp?

I'm not trying to start beef here bully but listen to what i have to say without blowing up please.

U have to understand the game Streetball is street basketball Organized ball is basketball they're are damn near the same if u got game
I'll agree with you that organised ball and street are similar but they are from two different worlds, for example the D in an organised comp in my country is all zone and never man, when you play street it's all man and much more physical meaning you can't hide behind the ref on some bs call.

1st know your position & where you are supposed to be at all times...w/out know that u can't win in any type of game
Everybody pretty much knows their role in any game but what happens when you got a Centre that can play like a guard in street? they obviously gna be checkin the ball at the top of the arc instead of your 1G ye? Given that what is your 1G gna do now? he just lost his 'role'.every game of street is different champ, the emphasis of street is 1.individualism, teamwork on the other hand gets the backburner. Unless of course your playing 1on1.

Oragnized is easier than street b/c u knwo exactly who your playing against ie. high schoolers, D1,2,3 college whatever i structured for your talent group, the street isn't so u have to be more aggressive
Its not and never will be, i know plenty of players in open divisions who play in B & C grades cuz A grade timetables are out of their schedule.
Street on the other hand can be a double edged sword, you have the choice of playing whoever you want so if your not as good as others you can run another pickup game whereas with comp you can't. Though it CAN be a bitch and i agree with you there, the onus though is to the person themselves, e.g do they wanna keep playing?

But if you can't run plays u can't play it's that simple & it sounds to me like your struggling w/ the basics of the game like movement, footwork & positioning. Here's what u do:
I've never had to run a play in street, ask StrdR,Spyda and anyone else that's played with me on these boards. Iwin, lose sometimes cuz hey your only human and you get that. I hurt i bleed. Can you give me an example also where somebody would run a play called 'PF Double Down Low?' refer to my previous paragraph ^^ about individualism.
So don't say 'hey your having difficulty with your game because of your fundamental skills' cuz brother i posted my 15secs of fame up and didn't get trashed.

But please post your clips you sound more than confident about what your saying. I'd like to be disproved.

Da Bully · #23 (**permalink**) 07-24-2006, 08:41 AM

do u win most of your street games or lose?

When u watch And1 play they run plays, EBC plays, guys on the black top plays...sometimes it's just isolations but we're running plays.

If the center wants to control the ball up top then he's not rebounding & u lose, just like Dirk in the finals, the laws of Basketball are universal & the more u play you'll discover that ppl don't know their roles b/c in streetball it changes every game keep it simple finishers & guards.

watch others play your position on O & D & just do what they do. If they playing zone spot up & hit the J get out & run, if they switch to man break your man down w/ the dribble & have your teammates set a pick & roll for u.

If u have the best big man on your team & need a sure basket send him to his strong side or post him against the weakest defender, attack hard w/ a V cut & dish to him for a 'PF Double Down Low'.

Aganist the zone pick & roll & jumpshots always work, transition game once u have the rebound & penetrate & dish plays........work on it

Why do u think there's so much cursing & screaming in streetball b/c we're running plays that we expect u to know & we want to win

Sik_Kent · #24 (**permalink**) 07-25-2006, 12:27 AM

understand where your coming from and yeah i spose i could say i win most of my one on ones.

Just frustrating when you lose a 3v3.

Understandable where your coming from but look theres gonna be tall mofo's out there who can run the ball just as well as any 1guard.

KYLE · #25 (**permalink**) 07-30-2006, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jam008

Yeh 8th grade isnt the most athletic age man no disrespect. I play 5 years above my age im only 17 and i play in a under 19 and open mens league and in my country ive been offered to train as a pro already.

If ur not aloowed to shoot or dribble in certain situations maybe its cause not the best to your coach and he hasnt given u free licence. My coach tell me to do my thing when i wana cause i make it count and i make sure i dish the bal when i see my team mates free. Organised ball is about passing it until u get the best option or until the other team gets tired on d and you punish them for being wrong footed or loose.
If your scoring those many points in 8th grade try keep the same points and asssists as you get older and unless your around 6"5 dont focus to much on rebounds.

well right now i am 6'2 and weigh 175 at age 13. i'm not fat or anything either i got a six pack. but street and organized are a lot different. in street and pick-up games you just play your game and you don't have to adjust your style to fit your coach.