Lazarus, I knew you were smart, but you're a magician too? Jk. Anyway, live2ball, I've done three weeks (Phase I) of Novice Weights and Beginner Plyos and my standing vert went from 19" to 22.5". I've stopped the weights program because the school I go to now doesn't let us lift whenever we want. I'm gonna try to work a deal with my old school so I can go lift there. Anyway, bottom line, I gained 3.5" in a few weeks.