redsox has posted my site before so i think its okay to. it's another forum however it 100% dedicated to vertical training. and no we don't promote anything, just knowledge. we even have links to any vertical forum or training sites that we know of even this one. the site is www.theverticalsummit.com and btw, to find his videos... go to the videos and pictures subforum. we even have some minor celebs on our site... B.A. from TFB, a guy who plays and dunks w/ Area 51 (who's goin to give our site a shoutout in the next video), and even mister Frank Yang himself. Still workin on getting KB and Kadour to sign up. and even though i'm the co-owner of the site, i still need to come to sites like this and help out where i can. but yeah back on the topic... its a wasted talent for this kid who prob thinks its cool to be lazy....